Music Patrons. That's all of you. Wouldn't you like to know where your money is going when you spend money on art? One of the primary goals of my site is to break down how your spending actually makes its way through the music industry.
The brief outline as I believe it to be the case:
Record spending mostly goes to the record industry.
Itunes store: 30% to Apple, 70% other depends on artist's deals with labels, but generally artist receives less than 10%
Spotify:
youtube : '0.65 cents every time someone plays the video' source 1 below
Concert attendance is the most profitable for artists.
sources:
1: http://www.businessinsider.com/google-psys-gangnam-style-has-earned-8-million-on-youtube-alone-2013-1
2: http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20110911/00284415891/how-much-does-band-make-various-music-platforms.shtml which in turn links to http://uniformmotion.tumblr.com/post/9659997039/release-day-economics
Me things:
I am starting to apply for jobs after five months of mostly sitting on the couch.
Which is only mildly fair to myself. the whole broken finger thing did slow me down a couple months, and added to some self loathing, and ... really just got in the way all around.
Wednesday, November 6, 2013
Monday, October 21, 2013
Actually going to start working on something
I've mustered up some motivation, and I think I have more ideas that are less likely to get me sued than some of my previous ideas. Time to actually start moving.
Wednesday, July 10, 2013
As Ive said before, I hesitate to do anything
Which people have said is silly. But then I think about the joel tenenbaum case and I cower. Still thinking about stuff, not making much progress. Dont think anybody is reading this, but in case they do, just a smidgen of information.
Ill be posting more sometime soon.
In the meantime, information about me. I quit my job recently because I was finally fed up, but ... shortly thereafter I broke my finger, so now Im having a harder time coding, so yeah.
Ill be posting more sometime soon.
In the meantime, information about me. I quit my job recently because I was finally fed up, but ... shortly thereafter I broke my finger, so now Im having a harder time coding, so yeah.
Monday, May 27, 2013
OK ... those two changes only took minutes, just an annoyance that was in the way of me doing anything useful.
One of the bigger issues for why this was never worked on was my laptop died, and I replaced it with a chromebook, which didnt really have the ability to upload to google's webapp system... without installing linux and dealing with the vagaries of that process. Im still concerned that my crouton linux setup will not be ... as fully functional as Id like, and since I want to store data locally and then upload it ... basically, I do not want to run a robot to gather data, I want it to be user curated, and then be the first / primary user for the time being... eventually letting other people join and help curate... but the question is what is the best way to gather the data, ... and the answer is not manual.
The basic idea I have at this point is a chrome widget to collect data on specific sites, with the option to add certain sites to it, and have an automated parsing tool look at the info on the site and put it into a useful format that will be aggregated into the site such that every time... say I look at upcoming concerts musicpatrons sees what I am looking at and shares it, ... not the creepy spotify->facebook see what I am doing share it but integrates the information I am seeing such that a more complete picture is developed on music patrons... so I guess thats the place to start, concert and information about bands.
I really want to start with a method of tabulating my own listening habits to get a better picture of how I should be directing my funds to be a more appropriate patron. But this info is more of an issue because it is user specific and across platforms, so, if Im writing an app for myself to use it will be youtube and music.google.com (play.google.com/music [whatever]) centric, and a way of tabulating those views so I get a picture of my own usage, but for somebody else it may be any number of other services, so ... on the one hand ... I should use all these services and try and see what ability there is for exporting user data so I can write a tool a user could use to examine their information by themselves, ... but ... as I said, I need to start somewhere.
Right now, that place is looking into writing a chrome extension to parse information out of pages I visit and see if I can start drawing my own musical picture.
One of the bigger issues for why this was never worked on was my laptop died, and I replaced it with a chromebook, which didnt really have the ability to upload to google's webapp system... without installing linux and dealing with the vagaries of that process. Im still concerned that my crouton linux setup will not be ... as fully functional as Id like, and since I want to store data locally and then upload it ... basically, I do not want to run a robot to gather data, I want it to be user curated, and then be the first / primary user for the time being... eventually letting other people join and help curate... but the question is what is the best way to gather the data, ... and the answer is not manual.
The basic idea I have at this point is a chrome widget to collect data on specific sites, with the option to add certain sites to it, and have an automated parsing tool look at the info on the site and put it into a useful format that will be aggregated into the site such that every time... say I look at upcoming concerts musicpatrons sees what I am looking at and shares it, ... not the creepy spotify->facebook see what I am doing share it but integrates the information I am seeing such that a more complete picture is developed on music patrons... so I guess thats the place to start, concert and information about bands.
I really want to start with a method of tabulating my own listening habits to get a better picture of how I should be directing my funds to be a more appropriate patron. But this info is more of an issue because it is user specific and across platforms, so, if Im writing an app for myself to use it will be youtube and music.google.com (play.google.com/music [whatever]) centric, and a way of tabulating those views so I get a picture of my own usage, but for somebody else it may be any number of other services, so ... on the one hand ... I should use all these services and try and see what ability there is for exporting user data so I can write a tool a user could use to examine their information by themselves, ... but ... as I said, I need to start somewhere.
Right now, that place is looking into writing a chrome extension to parse information out of pages I visit and see if I can start drawing my own musical picture.
I do not make this a high enough priority.
It is unfortunate. The job that pays my bills happens to get in the way of having enough energy to really want to get into things at the end of the day. Taking the Memorial day off today as an opportunity to do things that I should have done ages ago, namely ... since I am using google app engine for the hosting of the site at this point I am migrating away from the deprecated settings I used a year ago to get the very basic frontpage setup.
namely:
python2.5 ->2.7
and
master/slave ->high replication datastore ...
these shouldnt mean anything to anybody, and basically could have been done automatically as my page doesnt really have features at this point. Ideally, I want to add features, but I feel mildly caught in the wild stallions trap ... need A for B and B for A. The 'hacker' approach is just to start doing things and see what happens, ... since this isnt a high priority for me, how can I do that ... obviously writing this blag isnt the best approach, but organizing my thoughts should be beneficial on some level right? 'A little less conversation a little more action' ....
namely:
python2.5 ->2.7
and
master/slave ->high replication datastore ...
these shouldnt mean anything to anybody, and basically could have been done automatically as my page doesnt really have features at this point. Ideally, I want to add features, but I feel mildly caught in the wild stallions trap ... need A for B and B for A. The 'hacker' approach is just to start doing things and see what happens, ... since this isnt a high priority for me, how can I do that ... obviously writing this blag isnt the best approach, but organizing my thoughts should be beneficial on some level right? 'A little less conversation a little more action' ....
Sunday, April 14, 2013
Legal issues
One of the reasons I've not done much work on this site thus far is the legal complications. My understanding is that for my own protection I need to establish a legal entity such that if somebody is unsatisfied with what my site is doing my personal well being is not threatened. My personal beliefs are largely negative towards the legal industry and I could rant for days about it, so I won't go down that path unless I get rant-y. ... which happens sometimes so I apologize.
But more specifically I worry about the music industry's resistance to change, and their legal response to anything new. My personal beliefs about how the world should work aside, I do not want to get sued for something I am not guilty of, because the cost of defending myself will be well above and beyond what most people consider reasonable.
Obviously, various entertainment folks are heavily invested in the current methodology of the industry. The legacy players have their part in things, and have helped serve the goals of society and music in the past, but my belief is that the present opens up all sorts of new methods that should help creators be more productive and add to the overall benefit of society and any resistance to this is selfish; so I will do my best to prepare myself for what I assume is an inevitable legal assault against my character and well being.
The first step in this is not doing too much work on the site, or enabling features that could potentially draw ire. So, apologies for the four people who have interest in this point, but I am not ready yet. And given that I have a full time job, I do not know how best to estimate when I will be there.
But more specifically I worry about the music industry's resistance to change, and their legal response to anything new. My personal beliefs about how the world should work aside, I do not want to get sued for something I am not guilty of, because the cost of defending myself will be well above and beyond what most people consider reasonable.
Obviously, various entertainment folks are heavily invested in the current methodology of the industry. The legacy players have their part in things, and have helped serve the goals of society and music in the past, but my belief is that the present opens up all sorts of new methods that should help creators be more productive and add to the overall benefit of society and any resistance to this is selfish; so I will do my best to prepare myself for what I assume is an inevitable legal assault against my character and well being.
The first step in this is not doing too much work on the site, or enabling features that could potentially draw ire. So, apologies for the four people who have interest in this point, but I am not ready yet. And given that I have a full time job, I do not know how best to estimate when I will be there.
Saturday, April 13, 2013
so, the goals of the site...
Mission statement:
Help enable artists to produce, and consumers to consume art.
Goals:
Recommend relevant music to people in a way that they appreciate. Allowing no recommendation playlist setup and general searching over a generated index of available music the user owns, as well as music shared via a variety of platforms, hopefully integrating youtube, soundcloud, myspace, and other, hopefully all integrated together such that a playlist can play seamlessly, but realistically this may prove difficult, using a select set of platforms and trying to create the same lists across them may be a goal, still investigating integration options,
Artists:
Really at the end of the day, not starving is the first priority. But secondarily, demonstrating value, enabling a method for advertising non infinite goods. Techdirt.com writes extensively about 'connecting with fans' and providing a 'reason to buy' and is fairly in line with what I am thinking of here.
Next thing related to creating art is tools and assistance. Hopefully with a social network related to music artists will reach out to other artists in their genre to help forward the progress of their art. Not to sound like too much of a hippie.
Thirdly, Id like to help enable artists to book venues. Hearing a story about my friend sending out thousands of messages to venues on the east coast trying to book a tour sounded terrible, and there is a better way. But, its obviously complicated and requires a lot of help. I mean ... as a geek, my understanding is that scheduling is an np complete problem, however you just need to prune down the search space, ... probably not best to send an indie band to a metal bar ... although who knows maybe you have a lot of fans there. Point being, actually connecting with your fans would enable you to locate them better and target the right venues to have shows which will generate attendance. </ramble>
after that little rant I guess its best that I just sit and think for a bit before going forward.
Help enable artists to produce, and consumers to consume art.
Goals:
Recommend relevant music to people in a way that they appreciate. Allowing no recommendation playlist setup and general searching over a generated index of available music the user owns, as well as music shared via a variety of platforms, hopefully integrating youtube, soundcloud, myspace, and other, hopefully all integrated together such that a playlist can play seamlessly, but realistically this may prove difficult, using a select set of platforms and trying to create the same lists across them may be a goal, still investigating integration options,
Artists:
Really at the end of the day, not starving is the first priority. But secondarily, demonstrating value, enabling a method for advertising non infinite goods. Techdirt.com writes extensively about 'connecting with fans' and providing a 'reason to buy' and is fairly in line with what I am thinking of here.
Next thing related to creating art is tools and assistance. Hopefully with a social network related to music artists will reach out to other artists in their genre to help forward the progress of their art. Not to sound like too much of a hippie.
Thirdly, Id like to help enable artists to book venues. Hearing a story about my friend sending out thousands of messages to venues on the east coast trying to book a tour sounded terrible, and there is a better way. But, its obviously complicated and requires a lot of help. I mean ... as a geek, my understanding is that scheduling is an np complete problem, however you just need to prune down the search space, ... probably not best to send an indie band to a metal bar ... although who knows maybe you have a lot of fans there. Point being, actually connecting with your fans would enable you to locate them better and target the right venues to have shows which will generate attendance. </ramble>
after that little rant I guess its best that I just sit and think for a bit before going forward.
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